SpaceXAI Exodus, OpenAI’s Apple Partnership Sours, iPhone Engineer on Apple’s Roadmap & Steve Jobs

Elon Musk reporter Theo Wayt discusses the talent exodus at SpaceX AI and Elon Musk’s "DOGE-style" restructuring of the company. We also talk with Rocket Drew about closing statements in the Musk v. OpenAI trial as well as Co-Executive Editor Martin Peers & Jason Dean, SF Bureau Chief, about the brewing conflict between OpenAI and Apple. Lastly, we get into the future of Apple with iPhone engineer and Nest Co-founder Matt Rogers and the nuclear energy race with Jemima McEvoy. Articles discussed on this episode:  https://www.theinformation.com/articles/trump-officials-vcs-love-nuclear-power-startups-brute-force-approach https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openais-apple-partnership-sours https://www.theinformation.com/articles/cerebras-shows-ipo-market-will-pay-messy-ai-math https://www.theinformation.com/newsletters/the-briefing/cerebras-ipo-stock-pop-apple-openai-drama https://www.theinformation.com/newsletters/dealmaker/cerebras-payday-includes-tiger-spvs Subscribe:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theinformation  The Information: https://www.theinformation.com/subscribe_h Sign up for the AI Agenda newsletter: https://www.theinformation.com/features/ai-agenda TITV airs weekdays on YouTube, X and LinkedIn at 10AM PT / 1PM ET. Or check us out wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us: X: https://x.com/theinformation IG: https://www.instagram.com/theinformation/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@titv.theinformation LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theinformation/ Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:13 - SpaceX AI Exodus: 50+ Exits Since Acquisition 10:17 - Musk v. OpenAI: Jury Deliberations Begin 17:53 - Cerebras IPO Pop & OpenAI’s Apple Conflict 30:06 - Early iPhone Engineer Matt Rogers on OpenAI Hardware 48:06 - Valar Atomics: The Race to Turn on Nuclear